tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post3736713033035173330..comments2023-05-14T05:53:33.537-07:00Comments on Rational Science Blog: The Rational Scientific MethodMike Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05956442265347654942noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-25724333590918204972019-11-08T02:53:23.333-08:002019-11-08T02:53:23.333-08:00Really appreciate this wonderful post that you hav...Really appreciate this wonderful post that you have provided for us.Great site and a great topic as well i really get amazed to read this. Its really good. <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.osthoro.scientificcalculator" rel="nofollow">free app</a><br />ABhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17062521498551331545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-30460596865569951492017-11-08T21:42:07.676-08:002017-11-08T21:42:07.676-08:00Ban happy abusive idiots. Ban happy abusive idiots. DavidHenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09047346944357688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-36451039684985024852015-07-08T13:32:03.883-07:002015-07-08T13:32:03.883-07:00If anyone is interested in discussing the Rational...If anyone is interested in discussing the Rational Scientific Methodists & Their Beliefs, a new Facebook group page has been created here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/396188730576334/ Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-23872740533405656682015-06-30T13:26:45.203-07:002015-06-30T13:26:45.203-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-41160214840467555072015-06-24T10:00:06.232-07:002015-06-24T10:00:06.232-07:00Oops.. The first link is to a 2013 blog, not 2014....Oops.. The first link is to a 2013 blog, not 2014. And I forgot to provide the link to the "Rational Scientific Method?" blog. Here it is: http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/rational-scientific-method-63662.htmlEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-51737597004935742722015-06-24T09:56:09.790-07:002015-06-24T09:56:09.790-07:00I did some research and found an interesting blog ...I did some research and found an interesting blog thread from 2014 titled "The Absurdity of the ‘Rational Science’ Method." Here's the link: http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/03/01/the-absurdity-of-the-rational-science-method/<br /><br />41 of the 42 comments following the article support the idea that RSM is "absurd." But, I found comment #35 to be of particular interest. It says:<br /><br /><i> So far I believe there are about 3 categories of “rational scientists:”<br /><br /> 1) individuals clueless about most things scientific and otherwise, but want to be be respected for what they perceive a superior intellect, true confirmation of the Kruger-Dunning effect.<br /><br /> 2) Individuals with scientific education of various degrees seeking to be vindicated for what they perceive academic censorship of their ideas when these ideas never gained traction or passed peer review.<br /><br /> <b> 3) Bill Gaede, an individual who seemingly possesses narcissistic/borderline tendencies, enjoying the adoration of everyone in category 1) and feeling victimized for his brilliance.</b></i><br /><br />I also found another blog thread titled "Rational Scientific Method?" It contains a comment where RSM advocate "Munjit" actually tries to explain a belief:<br /><br /><i> The universe can't expand.<br /><br /> Is the Universe a physical object? Is the Universe like a pair of pants, or like an apple we can point to?<br /><br /> Early man pointed to all objects and gave them a name. The name is irrelevant. The name is just an association/relation from a concept in the brain, to an object in the physical world. This is how language began. So the word “apple” is a concept, just as all words are concepts. But this concept “apple”, resolves to a physical object hanging from a tree.<br /><br /> Now I ask you: What does the word “Universe” resolve to.....an object or a concept?<br /><br /> First of all, the word Universe is a concept, as all words are concepts.<br /><br /> Now does the word Universe resolve to any physical object? <b>Can we point to ‘the’ Universe?<br /><br /> The answer is unequivocally: NO </b></i> <br /><br />His misunderstandings seem VERY basic and very easy to resolve. <b>YES, WE CAN POINT TO THE UNIVERSE.</b> To say we can't is like being in a room and saying we cannot point to the room. To Munyit, the "universe" is <b><i>everything there is.</i></b> He "<b>knows</b>" that. To mainstream scientists, the universe is only <b><i>everything they can see</i></b>. They simply do not "<b>know</b>" what is on the other side of the walls of "the room."<br /><br />But there seems no way to get a RSM advocate to listen to anything.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-16923581981746631172015-06-22T14:35:32.017-07:002015-06-22T14:35:32.017-07:00"You see what you want to see and you hear wh..."You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." <br /> - The Mountain <br /><br />AND you demonstrated that you are too stupid to understand simple instruction, except this one: Go away, Ed.<br /><br />Since you responded OK, you were permablocked. <br /><br />Now you can't come back. AND you can't read what we're saying. You can't delete comments and get away with it. BUT rest assured, your comments are there forever showing how when given the chance to learn about RSM all you do is whine. ByeBye!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-1828960076074091032015-06-22T14:30:24.434-07:002015-06-22T14:30:24.434-07:00Then go join another FB Group that welcomes you an...Then go join another FB Group that welcomes you and see for yourself.<br /><br />God lick finding someone to welcome you, I'm nice. RSM is different. One way we're different is that we never delete comments.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-82475773370731393902015-06-22T14:29:57.910-07:002015-06-22T14:29:57.910-07:00Looks like they banned me from the Rational Scient...Looks like they banned me from the Rational Scientific Method Facebook page. I can't even see the page anymore. All I see is a message that says, <i>"The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, <b>or you may not have permission to view this page.</b></i>"<br /><br />That's okay. It was getting pretty creepy anyway. I felt like a Jew or a black man talking with Nazis. There was so much hatred there I actually tried to look them up to see if they are identified as a "hate group." I couldn't find anything.<br /><br />But, they certainly helped prove my hypothesis that there is no way to have an intelligent discussion with a "Truther," and that includes Rational Scientific Method advocates. Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-19375096016155240102015-06-22T13:37:59.742-07:002015-06-22T13:37:59.742-07:00Someone is playing games. If you are saying that ...Someone is playing games. If you are saying that "someone" deleted a NEW "Welcome page," whatever happened happened while I was at the gym. I suspect the page was deleted so that I cannot prove that I have NO ABILITY to delete it.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-45880140735324899102015-06-22T10:49:44.679-07:002015-06-22T10:49:44.679-07:00Come back and cry at RSM. The fact that you delete...Come back and cry at RSM. The fact that you deleted the New Welcome Thread, shows to me that you may have done it by accident. Else, why would you delete...unless you are trying to fool everyone!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-2162155538124614462015-06-22T10:47:48.686-07:002015-06-22T10:47:48.686-07:00Ha hA You don't even understand that FG groups...Ha hA You don't even understand that FG groups are not Blogs.<br /><br />It's just too funny! My sides are splitting. You are so stupid, YOU deleted your Welcome Thread by accident!. Ha ha HA!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-30415381259442514632015-06-22T10:44:48.505-07:002015-06-22T10:44:48.505-07:00Nope. Your request was acknowledged and YOU delete...Nope. Your request was acknowledged and YOU deleted it, just like you said you would do to "prove you couldn't!" <br /><br />"I'll sign up for your blog again just to check the options, to see if it is possible for me to delete a thread YOU create. "<br /><br />So, that alone, leads me to believe, you accidentley deleted you own thread when you were trying to copy all the comments because you thought WE would delete your threads,. Ha ha hA! Self fulfilling prohecy?<br /><br />HA hA! You stupid, silly, man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-50982746518826218452015-06-22T10:38:56.033-07:002015-06-22T10:38:56.033-07:00"I recommended discussing Time Dilation, whic..."I recommended discussing Time Dilation, which I HAVE studied in detail, and you just dismissed it without discussion."<br /><br />The comments you deleted had a response to your ridiculous article on time and utterly destroyed ALL your arguments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-56165107735242268262015-06-22T10:36:19.632-07:002015-06-22T10:36:19.632-07:00That's the sort of intelligent reply I've ...That's the sort of intelligent reply I've learned to expect from you, Ed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-87753327626576503552015-06-22T10:35:13.555-07:002015-06-22T10:35:13.555-07:00Ha ha! First line of defense from a Truther, we se...Ha ha! First line of defense from a Truther, we see it every day. Quit whining like a Girly man and address the issues.<br /><br />Nope, you're just another pimple on the ass of the Troll's ass. You'll get popped like all the rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-20928642857814454672015-06-22T09:40:23.014-07:002015-06-22T09:40:23.014-07:00It's now been two hours since I tried to re-jo...It's now been two hours since I tried to re-join the Rational Scientific Method group. My acceptance is STILL pending. Very soon I will shut down my computer, break for lunch and then head to the gym for my regular workout. So, will be at least two hours before I check on my admission again.<br /><br />I also feel that it is now too close to lunch time to do anything on the RSM page this morning other than to acknowledge acceptance -- IF they decide to accept me.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-10098535896315213022015-06-22T09:23:55.279-07:002015-06-22T09:23:55.279-07:00It occurs to me that we have a situation calling f...It occurs to me that we have a situation calling for "The scientific Method." We have a question: <b>WHO deleted the Facebook blog page that John Smith started when I joined the Facebook group?</b><br /><br />John Smith and Bill Gaede claim I did it. It sees to me FAR more likely that John Smith did it, since it's his blog. <br /><br />So, following "The Scientific Method," the next step is to do background research. I'm trying to rejoin the group to see if I have the option to delete ANYTHING, specifically an entire discussion thread where many others have posted comments. It makes NO SENSE that I would be allowed to delete other people's messages on John Smith's blog.<br /><br />I did some research to see if it was possible to delete something on the other Facebook group where I am a member, and I could find no way to do it.<br /><br />When I create my finish my research I expect to have EVIDENCE that I could not possibly have deleted that page, and that ONLY John Smith has that ability.<br /><br />Then I will have a verified hypothesis that the deletion was done by John Smith.<br /><br />I will welcome any EVIDENCE which says otherwise, so that such evidence can be evaluated by all parties. But, I suspect the evidence will have no meaning to RSM advocates, and all the RMS advocates will just BELIEVE that I deleted the thread. They will use the RMS to develop that hypothesis and ignore all evidence that tends to disprove it. <br /><br />Meanwhile, for everyone else, the EVIDENCE will say that John Smith did the deletion. Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-70869883135122054302015-06-22T08:41:21.124-07:002015-06-22T08:41:21.124-07:00For the record, I attempted to rejoin the Rational...For the record, I attempted to rejoin the Rational Scientific Method group about an hour ago, and it still says my admission is "pending." <br /><br />Has John Smith changed his mind. Did Bill Gaede change it for him? <br /><br />Time will tell. They will probably argue that I didn't try to rejoin. If I take a snapshot of the pending notice, they'll probably argue that the snapshot was doctored. Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-84963843809870152532015-06-22T07:28:03.473-07:002015-06-22T07:28:03.473-07:00Mr. Gaede,
Name calling just shows that you canno...Mr. Gaede,<br /><br />Name calling just shows that you cannot argue intelligently.<br /><br />I'll rejoin the group just to check the options to see if it is possible for me to delete a thread. <br /><br />I cannot argue magnetism with you because it's not a subject of interest to me, and I've never studied it in detail. <br /><br />I recommended discussing Time Dilation, which I HAVE studied in detail, and you just dismissed it without discussion. As I recall, you argued that my view of Time Dilation is about clocks. It is NOT about clocks. It uses a PULSAR instead of a clock, because a pulsar can be seen from different points trillions of miles apart.<br /><br />I will no longer call you "Truthers." "Trolls" would seem more appropriate, since your methodology seems designed to create arguments that Trolls can use to argue with "the establishment." But, since I need to have a less inflamatory term to use to refer to you all as a group, I'll use "RSM Advocates." Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-22433556139370874092015-06-22T07:15:26.446-07:002015-06-22T07:15:26.446-07:00You make no sense, so I do not know how to respond...You make no sense, so I do not know how to respond to this gibberish.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-76269255385404541962015-06-22T07:13:25.025-07:002015-06-22T07:13:25.025-07:00Name calling just proves my point: You cannot dis...Name calling just proves my point: You cannot discuss anything intelligently because you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-43061032670346573252015-06-22T07:09:22.660-07:002015-06-22T07:09:22.660-07:00John Smith wrote: "You deleted your welcome t...John Smith wrote: <i>"You deleted your welcome thread, and everyone at the RSM group knows it."</i><br /><br />I did NOT delete the thread. As far as I can tell, there is no way for me to delete a thread on YOUR blog. That wouldn't even make any sense, since I would be deleting other people's posts, too. And how could that be allowed? I figured you would soon delete it, so I was trying to make a copy of it when it disappeared. <br /><br />I saved the entire file late on Friday. That's why I got the first 23 messages. You seem to be arguing that the only time to save a file is when the discussion is over. How do you know when it is over? Besides, saving a Facebook file is a pain in the ass, since there are so many hidden comments behind "see more" and "view previous comments," etc.<br /><br />I've only been on Facebook since Thursday, so I'm still learning how things work. <br /><br />I've reconsidered calling you "Truthers." It now appears that you are a group of Trolls. Your methodology is for Trolling.<br /><br />I'll sign up for your blog again just to check the options, to see if it is possible for me to delete a thread YOU create. <br /><br />Ed Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-58361658928478537152015-06-21T23:44:07.606-07:002015-06-21T23:44:07.606-07:00Idiot Ed Lake - Part 3
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3. “tests and experimen...Idiot Ed Lake - Part 3<br />.<br />.<br />3. “tests and experiments are done AFTER you have come up with a theory”<br />.<br />Where in the world did this idiot Ed Lake get that from?<br />.<br />In Science, we do NOT do experiments. We do NOT test theories. I say it everywhere. It is the deranged morons of Mathemagix who do tests and experiments at their monasteries.<br />.<br />Idiot Ed Lake has been raped so much by his priest that he can’t get away from testing and experimenting. It was shoved up his ass so deep that he can’t understand that tests and experiments have nothing to do with Science.<br />.<br />Science: rational explanations<br />.<br />Where is there a provision for tests and experiments in that definition?<br />.<br />So, again, Idiot Ed Lake has not even read let alone understood what RSM is about and shoots his mouth attacking strawmen that he creates.<br />.<br />Idiot Ed Lake was brainwashed to believe that tests and experiments are part of the ‘scientific’ method when tests and experiments have ONLY to do with Technology which in turn has NOTHING to do with Science.<br />.<br />In Science, we must provide a rational explanation to a phenomenon. Mathemagical ‘fizzix’ has never offered a rational explanation to ANY phenomenon (e.g., 0D black holes that swallow astronauts and clocks, Big Bang self-Creation from nothing, Twin Paradox/time dilation, Uncertainty Principle, wave-packet…) ALL of Mathemagix is GARBAGE, RUBBISH, KaKa! None of it survives.<br />.<br />.<br />Therefore, Idiot Ed Lake’s fucking mother should have drowned this piece of shit in the toilet together with the kitty litter when he was born rather than abandoning the basket at the monastery so that the monks could have their way with him. Now, Idiot Ed Lake is society’s problem. We have to baby sit him.<br />.<br />PS: Since Idiot Ed Lake uses the word ‘Truthers’ so much, I am guessing that this moron probably also believes that WTC7 was brought down by Bin Laden and Mohammed Atta.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />Bill Gaedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14544387676940935578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4309271349234878960.post-80200911160238472812015-06-21T23:43:13.715-07:002015-06-21T23:43:13.715-07:00Idiot Ed Lake - Part 2
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What is amusing is that...Idiot Ed Lake - Part 2<br />.<br />.<br />What is amusing is that in his post at Rational, Idiot Ed Lake began his prez by stating that he saw no difference between the Mathemagical Method and Bill Gaede’s Scientific Method.<br />.<br />Here he also shows that he is a superficial reader (or none at all). Examples…<br />.<br />.<br />1. “It appears the both the "Rational Scientific Method" AND " The Gaedean Scientific Method"… the hypothesis is really a BELIEF”<br />.<br />What a fucking moron! A hypothesis is an ASSUMPTION. We say it everywhere. Yet this piece of shit Ed Lake can’t even regurgitate what he reads (or doesn’t) in a straight forward manner. A critic of a theory has to at least be able to rephrase the theory he is criticizing in his own words. Idiot Ed Lake obviously can’t do that.<br />.<br />Here’s another<br />.<br />.<br />2. “Somehow, the hypothesis is then turned into a "theory”… How the "hypothesis" differs from the "theory" is not clear.”<br />.<br />Obviously, Ed Lake’s mother was a prostitute. She was ‘handled’ by every sailor in town. Does Idiot Ed Lake know who his father was?<br />.<br />I mean, really… where does it say at RSM or in any of my pages that a hypothesis turns into a theory? Where did this moron Ed Lake get that idea? How did he reach that idiotic conclusion?<br />.<br />A hypothesis is an ASSUMPTION.<br />.<br />A theory is an EXPLANATION.<br />.<br />How does Idiot Ed Lake visualize an assumption (objects, definitions, initial scene) converting into an explanation (mechanisms, causes)?<br />.<br />.<br />Bill Gaedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14544387676940935578noreply@blogger.com